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The Beginning WriterThe Beginning Writer: Interacting (Part 1 of 3)© Will Greenway 2000 |
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Aside from the occasional hermit, most people are social creatures—writers are no exception. Our hobbies are something we do in our leisure time. While we might derive some enjoyment being sequestered with our muses pounding away at a keyboard—there is another less-explored part of writing we tend to enjoy far more. That part is simply talking shop. When I say talking shop, it goes to a whole host of peripheral pursuits related to writing, whether it is improving skills, getting inspiration, or simply learning more about the writing phenomenon and the artists.
Few are the writers who are not also readers. The natural place to look for "shop talk" is in articles written about writing. A lot can be gleaned from written advice. It has the advantage of organization and permanence. If there's something you don't remember or understand you can go back and peruse the material again.
Advice on advice
Nobody has all the answers. Writing is not an exact science, there is no formula or absolute "right" way—no matter how much I (or any other advisor) might suggest that there is. Each person is different—you are different. As such, what works for me, might not work for you or have the same results. Does that make reading about writing pointless? No. What it means is that you have to collaborate with the advisor to help you improve. A great deal of what I do in the Dynamic Fiction and Dynamic Writing material is to analyze what writing and story is. I take it apart and a label things and show how they relate to one another in hopes that you will find those elements in your own material. To get anything out of it, you must make that mental engagement. This is not just with my material, but with any written advice.
When coming to a thesis on writing improvement treat it and everything else you have read / heard / experienced as an aggregate. What helped you in the past may well continue to help you forever. Some things are universal, but are said many ways. The now almost cliche, 'show don't tell' admonishment. Old and tattered as it is... if you adhere to nothing else as a fiction writer, sticking to that alone will make you significantly better than the average hack.
A lot of what I write is not new though I may try to put a different spin on it. That doesn't make it less valid. Reiterated concepts are a sign of a generally accepted truth. Does that make it law? No. The ultimate arbitor of truth or baloney is always you. Your responsibility is to weigh the merit of each idea and hang onto the concepts that make the most sense to you.
The key thing is to remain objective. To be honest, my left-brained approach to writing really bugs some writers. They hate having it reduced almost to a math equation. I can only shrug. One of the keys to success in any endeavor is consistency. Can you think of a better way to be successful in writing than to distill the critical elements down to what is essentially a checklist for self evaluation? That checklist is a litmus test that when passed, makes your writing more consistent and hopefully more successful. At least, that's the idea behind it all, elsewise this wouldn't be here for you to read.
Like I have a plan in teaching you, look for the plan in other literature about writing. Its pertenence really boils down to the plan (if any). My mechanism puts a lot of responsibility on you. I count on you to think analytically as well as creatively. The success or failure of my approach and its worth to you is whether or not that "split thinking" is a reasonable and attainable accomplishment. When reading another author's advise consider what their grand scheme is (if it is apparent or elucidated). Is it reasonable? Is it something you can and will be able to put into to action? That is your raw barometer for how valid those ideas are in the context of helping you.
Everything can help you if you think of it the right way—even the rankest tripe. If you can see the sham or the fallacy for what it is, you can have your laugh and move on. You've still gleaned something—even if its never to read something from that person again.
In summary on the issue of writing advice:
Written writing advice is the natural medium for a writer to learn. However,
it has the distinct disadvantage of not being interactive. If your particular
question is not answered then you are left frustrated.
So, if you want better answers about writing, where do you go? Naturally, to
other writers and preferrably authors. Where can that experience be had? There
are three main ways: through mail and online, through conferences and seminars,
and through critique groups or writer circles.
Mail and Online Writer interaction
We want to socialize—we really do. Typically, it's a matter of
geography—there's simply nobody close. More often, we simply don't know
what resources are available.
One resource that you might have encountered are the various teach-by-mail
writing seminars offered by groups like Longridge Writers Group. With the
advent of the internet, this practice has diminished dramatically. Some still
exist however. In the case of Longridge, and the others I recall, they give you
a fancy writing test (that you always pass) and offer all kinds of written
advice material (at a cost of course). They have study groups where you trade
scripts with others and there is some limited guidance and advice. The most
intriguing thing that they offer is a "writing coach" someone who will read your
material and provide feedback. This is not really a plug for them. I see
"graduates" of the Longridge school of writing, most of them tend to be romance
writers—judge that for yourself. As to Longridge itself, I find them to
be rather high pressure and predatory. There are many hidden costs that make
their "support" an issue of diminishing returns. I first encountered them almost
twenty-five years ago when I foolishly filled out one of their writing tests and
sent it in. I received junk mail from them at least once a year up until few
years ago. I found what they offered to be 'pricey' (even then) and passed on
it. They have since graduated to the net and continue their activities online.
Considering the expense associated with them, there are better and more
interactive resources.
This, unfortunately, brings
us to the topic of the scam. I didn't say Longridge was a scam—but even
then, fledgling that I was—it felt like a scam to me. I have no evidence
to suggest that they are (except some minor rants on the net by others who felt
ripped off). The important point is, we writers do get desperate for contact
with other writers. Not just contact, but approval. We want people to read our
stuff and like it.
I'm sad to say that there are some shady people in the
business, ranging from false teaching institutions, to agents and editors.
Beware the shill in agent's clothing
Top of the list of things to watch out for are agents who are actually shills for editing services. The
scam works like this: You submit your work to presumably reputable agent x.
Mister (or missus) X responds with a gushing letter about your potential but the
script simply isn't ready to go to a publisher. They say that if your script
were 'cleaned up' that they could represent it. If you like they have the name
of a good editor who will work with you to fix your script.
Yes, SOME of these are legitimate. MOST are not. I was nearly sucked into this once. In my
encounter with it, the editing was going to run three dollars a page for what
amounted to proof-reading. Not actual feedback. In actuality, three per page
isn't bad (if the editor is really good) but I had her do a single chapter
(which ran $30) and it was simply sub-par line-editing. I got better edits from
my local read-and-critique group for half the price (more on those later).
The kicker is even if you get sucked in on the edits and do it. The agent never
does anything with it. They just string you along. I've heard people getting
taken on this vile practice MANY times. In some cases, high pressure sales with
edits that cost as much as $10000! For goodness sake, for a little more a
person could self publish with a sizeable print run!
Always,always—ALWAYS, check the credentials of the agents before you solicit
them. Be VERY suspicious if they refer you to an 'editing service'. Often
times they get kickbacks for referrals, or in some instances the editor works
for them or in one case I heard about, IS the agent under a pseudonym.
Before soliciting an agent do some research. If an agent charges a fee, it makes them
suspect. Some make you pay for postage and duplication, but the good ones won't
squawk if you provide the duplicates if they are on the up-and-up. A good online
resource is the Preditors and
Editors website. They have lists of agents and organizations that engage in
questionable practices.
Interaction on the Net
The internet is a great tool for writers, and there are some great anonymous
resources that are great at overcoming a writer's geographical and financial
limitations for interacting with their peers.
One of the organizations I will
plug is the Online Writing
Workshop for Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Horror. This is one of the best
organized, staffed, and run writing workshops out there. The site is sponsored
by a major publisher and they regularly run contests and skim popular works for
representation and publishing.
The downside to this obviously is it IS a genre based workshop. I must warn that it is NOT for the thin-skinned or faint
of heart. People will read your stuff though, and many will give you decent
reviews. In some cases, they will be brutally honest. That can sting.
Especially if you are not used to having someone go through your script and tear
it apart paragraph by paragraph.
The OWWSFFH does charge a nominal fee (see the chart below), they do however
give you a month's free access to try it out. If you are a productive writer
with a thick skin you will get your money's worth. Be prepared to work, because
it's a points system. You get to submit on a ratio, meaning you have to read
and critique other works in order to submit your own. It is a great learning
experience, especially if you've never critiqued other people's material. When
you start analyzing other writing—especially things that bother or
irritate you—it starts to make you aware of it in your own writing. That
alone is valuable.
I met some writing buddies on OWW who I eventually traded
books with outside the workshop format. You will find people who connect with
what you are trying to do and others that are totally off your wave-length. You
will find writing out there that is so awesome it humbles you, and other stuff
that makes you realize how good you are!
I highly recommend this experience to genre people who read this. Non-genre
people would still get something from it but if you don't read SFF&H you might
not enjoy it enough to stick with it and get the full benefit of what they
offer.
OWWSFFH has a comparison chart on their site that is simply too good not to lift
for purposes of listing some other writing courses and workshops that are available.
So, credit to OWWSFFH for the following chart:
Writersonline
workshops.com The last organization on the table is critters, I was part of the core membership
when this thing first started and went through its
growing pains of jumping from server to server. Critters is much more informal
and doesn't cost anything. The system is based on an email digest. That's one
thing, if you don't like a lot of email this can be taxing because every message
sent to the list comes to you. If it's still like before, you can get digests of
all the activity—but it's less spontaneous that way. I haven't been on
critters in some time so I have to feign ignorance as to how it is now. It used
to be very supportive and just a place to send questions into space and get
answers back It was a lot like being in a club—people got to know one
another. We'd throw stories out and feedback would be posted. It was just a
nice homey community. The feedback was less tough and the list people were
good folks. Now that they are around 5000 members, that may have
changed. If none of the other offerings appeal, I'd check it out if you're willing to wade
through all the email. It is free after all. Critters also has some great community links. I'd
recommend clicking through that material just for the edification.
One not on the OWWSFFH list is called "My Writer Buddy" (https://www.writerbuddy.com). This is a new one that I haven't
participated in. It's based on a forum system. There were murmurings that this
site might be having financial difficulties. From appearances of just looking
around it seems to be a reasonably organized feedback forum with links to email
critique circles.
One thing I have to add that encompasses all these resources is that if you
are looking to improve your skills you must be prepared to invest the time and
energy. In nearly every instance, you must put something in to get something out.
In some cases, it's money. Don't be fooled into thinking you will get more from
the places that charge more. In writing, you learn by doing. I guarantee if
you critique three scripts a week, and write or revise one every two, you will
likely learn more at OWWSFFH than in six weeks of a $300+ structured lecture class.
To top it off you spent less than $6 at OWWSFFH for that same span of time.
My only regret is they don't offer a non-genre version of their service.
By the same token you can read about writing (as witty as I am) until the sun
stands still and you won't be a better writer until you spend time writing. That
means not only creating, but making mistakes, and then fixing them. It's
repetition, self discipline, and conditioning. That's why workshopping, where others
read your material and critique it is so HUGE. FEW people can be truly subjective
about their material. You can train yourself to self edit and self critique but
it takes a while. The workshopping process gets you going in the right direction
quickly. If you submit week after week, pretty soon your favorite workshop members
begin to sit on your shoulders while you work and carp at you. While this may not
seem all that attractive, the improvements in your work are dividends more than worth
a few extra voices in your head. In the third part of the interaction segment I will
go into all the gory details about workshops.
Back to online resources. Here's three major points: Those three things are the start. I advise reading some material about good
critiquing ettiquette. Most sites have this material. A place to start is
Amy Sterling Casil's Hardcore Critique Guidelines.
She has a good overview of all the things to look for when reviewing material. I
will go back to this in the third and longest section of the interacting
segment.
If it sounds like I'm really pushing this kind of writer improvement—let's be
clear—I am. In an era of rapidly diminishing personal time, and rapidly increasing
interconnectivity, online communities just make sense. They are the next best thing to
live interaction. For those with geographic limitations they make even more sense. For
those who are shy or just not sure of themselves it's a way to explore without over
exposing yourself.
This kind of interaction is made for writers really because the primary means
of communication is through writing. There are pitfalls of course; predators,
scams, and just plain poor advice. Still, common sense, and thick skin, and a
tight grip on your wallet will steer you clear of most of the problems. In all,
the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks.
We looked at the anonymous level of writer interaction. Perhaps one of the
most detailed mediums with many strengths and some weaknesses. With a wide
variety of courses and workshops, there's plenty of resources to turn to when
you need a helping hand. In the next segment, we'll deal with seminars and
conferences—the distant and not-so-distant sources of personal writer
interaction.
Name
Length
Cost
Cost/week
SF&F Focus?
Online
Writing Workshop for SF, F & H
One year
$49
94 cents
Nothing but.
What you get:
Submit three pieces at a time for critique; review to learn;
Editors' Choice reviews by pros in the field; writers discussion
groups; resources, tips and advice
Writingclasses.com
(Gotham Writer's Workshop)10 weeks
$395
$39.50
One class on SF & F
What you get:
Individual classes on specialized topics: fiction writing, novel
writing, etc. Some include exercises, lectures, critique of one work
(Writer's Digest)
6-15 weeks
$179.00-$579.00
$22.37-$38.60
No
What you get:
Individual biweekly classes on specialized topics: fiction fundamentals,
novel writing, etc.
Coffee
House for Writers
4 weeks
$80
$20
No
What you get:
Individual classes on specialized topics: creativity, story structure, etc.
trAce Online Writers' Workshop
(trAce Online Writing School)4 weeks to 1 year
$64 to $982
$16 to $18.88
No
What you get:
Access to general writing workshop, with various leaders (focus changes according to
leader)
trAce Online Writing School
9 weeks
$273
$30.33
No
What you get:
Nine weeks of online instruction
Rabbit
Hill Writer's Studio
10 weeks
$150
$10
No
What you get:
E-mail list and scheduled chats
Writers
Village University
1 week-1 year
$10/mo, or $59/yr w/$20 reg.
fee
$2.31 or $1.52
One class on SF & F
What you get:
Short classes on specific writing topics: dialogue, characterization,
etc. Most are 3-6 weeks. Ongoing workshops.
Zoetrope
All-Story
Ongoing
Free to submit; $395 for workshop
$0 for submission; or $39.50
No
What you get:
Slushpile for magazine; submission requires critiques of others;
work. Paid 10-week workshops offered in conjunction with Writingclasses.com
Forward
Motion
Ongoing
Free
$0
Sort of
What you get:
Message boards, critique area, chat, classes
Critters
Ongoing
Free
$0
Yes
What you get:
Mailing list system for submitting and critiqung other's work; approx.
one-month waiting list to submit; must remain active